John Creamer

4th Fighter Group 11/18/1944



A.P.O. 558    U.S. ARMY


Eighth Air Force Field Order No. 1317A


A.  Combat

B. 18 November, 1944

C.  335th Fighter Squadron

D.  1245 hours

E.  One mile South of Leipheim A/D

F.  Good

G.  Me-262

H.  One Me-262 Destroyed in air (shared with Capt. Fitch)

I.       I was flying #3 in Caboose Red Section as we approached the enemy A/D from the S/W.  Our Section was just re-joining the Group after a bounce on friendly A/C.  At this time we were flying at 5000 feet.  I saw an Me-262 at approximately 4500 feet at a range of 1500 yards, heading South.  His speed was approximately 230 MPH.  I broke off from the formation in a diving turn to the right and the #4 man, Capt. Fitch, followed me.

I closed on the E/A to 800-1000 yards.  My speed at this time was 270 MPH.  I was using a K-14 Gyro Gun Sight and opened fire at 800 yards.  The E/A started climbing straight ahead as I kept firing.  At this time the E/A put on more power and exhaust smoke came out both engines.  I observed strikes on the fuselage and tail section.  The E/A stopped climbing at this time and started a shallow turn to the left, dropped his nose and started a gentle dive, gaining speed.  I was firing and observing strikes on the fuselage, and had closed to about 350 yards.  At this time Capt. Fitch had cut the E/A off in his turn and pulled behind him at approximately 250 yards.  He fired as the E/A straightened out from the left turn and I observed strikes in the left wing and tail section.  Capt. Fitch closed on the E/A fast, firing all the way and I kept observing strikes.  The E/A took no evasive action at this time.  As Capt. Fitch over-shot him I saw white smoke pouring from the left engine.  The E/A took no evasive action at this time.  As Capt. Fitch over-shot him I saw white smoke pouring from the left engine.  The E/A started a right turn at approx. 700 feet.  As I opened fire again I observed strikes.  The E/A then went into a right spiral going down fast.  I left him at 300 feet and lost sight of him at that time.  I looked back as my wing passed clear of the spot where he crashed and saw smoke and flame from the wreck.  All during the combat the E/A showed no superiority in speed or maneuverability.

I used the K-14 Gyro GunSight and I’m sure it was a definite advantage in the combat.


A/C Used:  P-51D    10     44-14098

Ammunition used:  1680 rnds.   50 Cal.   API & T



Elmer N. McCall

1st Lt., Air Corps


Robert L. Stallings,

1st Lt., Air Corps



2nd Lt., Air Corps,


Official US Army Air Forces Combat Report by John Creamer of the 4th Fighter Group. This material is a transcription of official reports-testimonials of John Creamer's combat experience.

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